tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post7748448627875773941..comments2024-03-26T01:10:13.720+00:00Comments on Teach Me Tonight: Talking Sense About Fifty $hade$ of GreyE. M. Selingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00426524354823232002noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post-37342177553583225102012-12-12T06:06:32.608+00:002012-12-12T06:06:32.608+00:00Yeah, I tend to agree fanfic shouldn't be pull...Yeah, I tend to agree fanfic shouldn't be pulled to publish, but that's abusing author's rights, not the fanfic community.<br /><br />Re: defending fanfic, the same argument's been used to defend piracy and it's less sound here because fanfic typically only draws fans. It's just people enjoying media. Banking off an author's work is another thing altogether, but I guess imitation is nothing new.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post-74965843759228893072012-12-11T10:08:07.613+00:002012-12-11T10:08:07.613+00:00I have the impression from reading John's book...I have the impression from reading John's book that the convention when writing fanfic has been that it should not be "pulled to publish," and that this is how the fanfic community generally ensures that they're not regarded as "exploitative."<br /><br />I also have the impression from my reading more generally, that they see themselves as fans who are exploring the books/movies/series they love via the writing of fanfic, which generates conversations and enjoyment about/of the original series as well as of the fanfic and, indeed, can even keep interest in the original book/movie/series alive (either between episodes/installments or, indeed, in the long-term) and may thus even boost sales/viewer numbers for the original work.<br /><br />From what John says, though, the Twilight fandom has been something of an anomaly among fanfic-producing fandoms.<br /><br />Re feminism, John's argument isn't focused on the writing style (though he does mention it) and although he acknowledges that "the pseudo-BDSM was received well and drew more positive attention to that community" he lays out reasons why the depiction is, nonetheless, problematic.Laura Vivancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00906661869372622821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post-83764771151510437222012-12-11T04:40:52.625+00:002012-12-11T04:40:52.625+00:00She has exploited the fanfic "community,"...She has exploited the fanfic "community," but they are themselves trading in exploitation, aren't they? Their works are literally all derivative, and the site where most of the published Twilight fanfics have their origins- that was created strictly to source Twilight fandom, attract fans of Twilight to Twilight fanfic. <br /><br />But it is too bad that she gives such a bad name to feminism -I haven't read Fifty, but the "inner goddess" excerpts, LOL! She's by no means the first to write that way though, isn't that common parlance in the chick-lit genre (distinct from romance)?- and BDSM. Although, has she, really? Although it's true she misrepresented BDSM and makes it seem pathological in her angsty characterization of Fifty, the pseudo-BDSM was received well and drew more positive attention to that community. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post-88483562794725885532012-12-10T11:32:21.218+00:002012-12-10T11:32:21.218+00:00I'd be very interested to know what you make o...I'd be very interested to know what you make of it, Jessica, particularly the bit about feminism and pornography. My impression was that John was being even-handed in his overview but since my knowledge of this is rather vague, I can't be absolutely certain that nothing vital was omitted.<br /><br />I'll change the price mentioned in my post so that it's the one you saw. I suspect that the price I can see on the US Amazon site is affected by my location outside the US.Laura Vivancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00906661869372622821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30203557.post-89460606010374472792012-12-10T11:12:29.878+00:002012-12-10T11:12:29.878+00:00Laura,
I've just purchased a Kindle version o...Laura,<br /><br />I've just purchased a Kindle version on Amazon for $2.99. As a Prime member, I also had the option of borrowing it for free. Thanks for the heads up!<br /><br />--RRRJessicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com